basic s24o kit

so mel and i used to be big into ultralight backpacking.  well not really big.  but we had all the kit.  and we made alot of our own: packs, compression sacks, a tent, jackets, hats, gloves, stoves, etc.  anyway. we learned how to pack light and small, and what you needed and didnt need.  hint: you want real shoes after a long hike, not foam insoles with kevlar toe loops for camp shoes.

anyway, i was talking to whit yesterday about sub 24 hour overnights, and he was saying he wanted to register for his wedding at REI to get some kit.  i thought: maybe maybe there are others out there who wanna know the same stuff, namely, who makes good, reliable, light, packable, and not terribly expensive kit for camping.  so i am gunna make a link list, and cory can butt in, to refute everything i say!

let’s start with the two (or 3) biggest purchases, not including panniers and racks, which is a can of worms i can crack later, if there is interest.  tents and bags.

now, i think its relatively common knowledge the synthetic bags are supposed to keep you warmer if your tent is floating down a freezing river.  however, in all my years of camping i have only once been in a situation where a sythetic bag would have been nessesary, and it was during a hurricane on an island.  and even then, i would have been cold and wet.  down lasts longer, compresses better, is natural, insulates more effectively, and costs more.  ok that last bit is the only draw back.  but campmor sells these great 20 degree bags (which mel has one of) that dont break the bank, are pretty light, hold up well (6 years and counting) and are warm enough for all but the coldest nights on the midatlantic.  and for those, there is this.  i have a lighter weight lafuma that packs to the size of a nerf ball, but on the colder nights, i am shivering and she is snug.

tents are a sticky point.  i have NEVER camped somewhere where i couldnt tie my tent up to a tree or use sticks to set it up.  however, some people are afraid of pole-less tents, or non-free standing tents.  if i lived in the desert or on the tundra… maybe i would be to. but i live in a land of trees and sticks.  so after some consideration, we chose an MSR missing link, recently discontinued but still easy to buy, brand new.  its light, spacious, well ventilated (better than any other tent i have ever used) and packs small.  its also availible for under 200 dollars.

ok those are the big items, not that the others wont add up.

the next expensive bit would be a stove.  MSR, who makes amazingly reliable stoves, has come out with the wind pro.  no fuss, fast set up, light weight, solid pot platform.  it is based on the ultra reliable whisperlite, a backpacking mainstay for years.  it weighs 5 oz more than the pocket rocket mel and i use but makes up for it in stability and usability.  dont worry, we will make up that weight elsewhere.

the trailhouse just turned mel and i on to the big agnes sleeping mats.  lighter, more insulated, smaller packing, and cheaper than thermorest.  yes, you have to blow it up. get over it.

headlamps are a good investment and they have come leaps and bounds in recent years.  i recommend this one. light, very bright (enough to ride a bike slowly after dark) and affordable.  there are lighter ones, there are brighter ones, but this is a good compromise.

cook kit: ti if you can swing it.  all you need is a pot and maybe if you are feeling frisky a fry pan.  snow peak makes great stuff.  is it nonstick? no.  but you can scrub it out with dirt, which comes in handy, and really the non stick stuff just doesnt last.  a worthy investment.

ti sporks are cool.  get one of these instead.

ti mugs are cool.  if you are made of money, get this.  if not, get a cheap cheap plastic texsport one.  functional difference: 0.  cool factor, also 0.

i use a sort of shallow lexan bowl to eat out of.  cheap, light enough, and you can abuse it.

coffee wise, there are all sorts of ways to go.  i like the simple and effective drip system, availible at any grocery store.  wanna go hyper lite?  pack tea bags.

water filters: on the east coast chances are, you wont need one because you are always close to a store.  if you might not be, just get some iodine tablets.

mel and i splurged (well i did) on a brunton mantelless lantern.  its very cool but heavyish and not very bright.  if i had to go at it again, i would get a snow peak lantern and just deal with the mantles.

granite gear makes great stuff sacks and compression sacks.  buy the ultra light ones.  they hold up fine.

this is a basic list.  i omited clothing (buy wool) and other sundries, like toothpaste and soap.  (travel size and dr bronners in a single use jim beam bottle, respectively)  you can figure that stuff out.  or not.  email me.  other random bits: always pack a rain coat.  even if it looks clear, it can act as a vapor barrier on cold nights.  like wise a hat is always a good thing to throw in.  i like to also bring a scrap piece of cloth to sit on.  do i ever remember to? no.  but maybe you will.  lastly, cheap target brand crocs make good camp shoes.  or off brand tevas, which you can also swim in.

14 Responses

  1. For a stove I use this Gaz model which heats stuff up fast and is light weight. Downside: fuel canisters are not refillable but small and mid-weight. The bonus is they make a lantern head that fits the same canister so can have a nice bright lantern with minimal addition to your kit.

  2. i forgot to mention, if you are a true minimalist, you will make a beer can alcohol stove. it boils water in about 5 minutes, but you need only about 1 oz of fuel to do that. so, for an over nite, a sub 1 oz stove plus 1oz of fuel = a very light program. this is worth experiementing with at home, i think. there are tons of directions online to make these. we used a beefier model for 7 days on a hiking trip in vermont. the only downside is the slow boil time. it is quiet, no canister to recycle, cheaper, etc etc. a quart of denatured alcohol costs about 2 dollars and would be enough for a month of solid camping.

  3. So when the next overnight? I was organizing one, but I suck.

    My 2 cents: hammock tents rock. Heckle me all you want, and then go try one.

  4. the next overnite will be whenever it stops being so damn cold out!
    and as for hammock tents, i dont have anything against them except that they arnt too cool for making out in, etc etc. for solo stuff, sure! also , my 2 person tent weights almost as little as a hammock tent.

  5. er, weighs not weights

  6. What happens if everyone brings a hammock and there aren’t enough good trees?

  7. um, obviously baler wins cause he can choke everyone out.

  8. i’m a fan of the esbit. pack a windscreen and you’re good. and it burns sticks which are even cheaper than alcohol.

  9. what about those foldable plastic (pet?) cups and bowls.
    I used one once and it seemed oddly cool.

    + a gallon zip lock bag with at least 1 dry cotton handkerchief, very multi-use

    (btw, I regret to inform that: My name is Cory and I approve this post.)

  10. i like those bowls in concept. i assume, correctly or not, that the foldy part will eventually wear out leaving you with a leaky bowl.

    as an owner of an esbit, a proper alcohol stove, and cheap homemade alcohol stoves, the esbit is more expensive to operate and seemed to always run out of fuel before the amount of water boiled that i wanted to boil. maybe it works great for solo stuff, i dont know. maybe we need a stove shoot out. weight+operating cost+packability+boil time+environmental impact+loudness/quietude= the best stove, via some obscure formula that someone smarter than me can hatch.

  11. The foldable bowls/cups seem to last, I have a few friends that use them. I never have a problem sticking my cup in my Ti cooking pot and nesting that in my lexan bowl, so I’m not sure I’d save much space and only a little weight.

    Besides making you look like every other dork on the planet, the Crocs will be bulky. Instead, use the Technica PacMoc that has a real sole, snaps together for reduced bulk and easy packing, and dries quick if you get them wet. Bonus: they are comfortable too.

  12. Crap! Here’s the right link for the Pac Mocs

  13. croc wise, i always have room to jam shoes in. that said, i ride in birks, so its a non-issue for me. and pac mocs look like water socks! course, crocs (and probably pac mocs) are so light that you can tie the to your pannier on the outside to no detrimental effect.

  14. For cooking, I have never been able to go past the Australian-Army style dixie-pans, Knife-Fork-Spoon set and hexamine stove. The whole kit and kaboodle packs up to a size not much larger than a thick paperback novel, and can hold 8 fuel tablets – more than enough for an S24O.

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